and dr. drea said recently, lord this is the way you made us, you shouldn't blame us. this is how people are. it's very, very unfortunate, it's very unfortunate we're sinful, hypocritical beings. this is the way god made us and it's unfortunate he chose politics as his career. >> larry: stephanie? >> oh boy. i don't know if this is a man/woman thing, larry, but he's a little more forgiving than i would be. there's so many words for john edwards, larry, and so few i can say on basic cable. you know, i think that a lot of us -- i've had elizabeth edwards on my show. i'm a big fan, but i think most of us -- again, i don't know if it's a female thing or human thing. imagine, like, losing a child, having cancer, having your husband not just be unfaithful but father a child with someone else when you're raising two young children then have you supporting a presidential campaign all the time? i mean, it's just beyond unconscionable. he could have taken down the whole democratic party with him.